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God did not need to be made. He has the power of Being within Himself. "It is precisely this concept of no origin which distinguishes that-which-is-God from whatever is not God." A. W. Tozer said.

When this question is asked by a child, its good because it shows that their mind is working logically. Everything that is made needs to have a Maker.  This is what we observe in nature. When an older person asks this question, they are unknowingly admitting their own creaturehood. This acknowledging that there must be a higher being than themselves, with the power to create out of nothing! The only question is, Is this being nature itself or God?  By the way, the beliefs of what is called the New Age movement are rooted in the oneness of God and nature. All of the New Age religious teach that God is part of nature, and nature is part of God, therefore all people being part of nature are actually gods themselves.  All is one, God is in us, Mother Earth, etc, are buzz words of this not so new religious movement (read Genesis 3:5). However, the God of the Bible claims to be self-existent and independent from the creation that is derived from Him. (Genesis 1:1; Psalm 90:1,2; Psalm 102:25-27; Isaiah 40:28-31; John 5:25).

Now back to the question, is the Creator nature or God?  Logic and science tell us that something can't come from nothing! If you believe otherwise the burden of proof is on you! You can look as deep as you want into science and you cannot escape the fact that nothing cannot create something.  Since something can't come from nothing, then if something exists now, then something has always existed! Is it God or matter? 

This is THE question of origins.  I don't have the time or the scientific knowledge to write a book on the problems of the eternal matter position.  Allow me to make a few points that anyone can understand.

  1. The first law of thermodynamics states that matter and or energy cannot be created or destroyed.  So far our observation of matter has shown that it does not have the power to create itself.  This is a problem because the universe (all matter) displays incredible design, but matter itself displays no mechanism for design, just a necessity to be acted on by outside forces to design it.  (Does a tornado in a junkyard create a 7-47?)
  2. The usable energy in the universe is running down. If it were to continue running down infinitely, we would have run out of energy infinitely long ago! Thus the universe must have had a beginning from an outside power-source not subject to the laws of nature. ("In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth," (Gen. 1:1, Heb 1:10-12)
  3. If you believe that matter is eternal, then obviously God could be also, so you can't even ask the question, "Where did God come from?"

In conclusion, all the laws of science point to the need for an uncaused first cause. God claims to be the uncaused first cause. God has the power of existence within himself, and that is what makes Him God.  God is not subject to the laws of nature. The laws of nature which can be observed independently of God (Psalm 19:1-6) agree with God’s Word which is special revelation to those who believe. (Psalm 19:7-14 and Isaiah 43:10-13).

I hope I have given some food for thought. However the person asking the short direct question "Who made God" is demanding a short direct answer, or else you are considered to have lost the argument.  Before it began, we need a short, quick, powerful response and hopefully earn the right for further dialogue.  Here are a few ideas. If you have others, let me know.

1. I'm glad you realize that everything made needs a Maker, God is not made.

2. Due to the problems with infinite regress, there must be an uncaused first cause and God is the only one who fits the criteria.

3.  I'm glad you understand the law of causality, if you tell me who made this law, I'll tell you who made God.

4. If I answer this question to your satisfaction, will you change your mind?

5. Would you like a long technically sound scientific answer or a short smart-alecky one?

6. Did God give you the ability to think of a question like that or is the intellect that thought of this question the result of random chance?

7. Who's on first?  (Don't use this one on a hostile person)

8. Do you realize that by asking this question you are admitting that the universe needs a Creator? 

9. My favorite so far - "God IS" - that is why I worship Him!

 

- Dave Curtis, Apologetics

Spring 2008 - Vol. 1 CCA Newsletter

"Where did God come from?" or "Who made God?" are classic questions asked by sincere children and hostile unbelievers alike. They are questions often asked with the intention of stopping us in our tracks and unfortunately, they do.  Before I begin an attempt to answer this question, I must state the following. The person asking this question, although he may be sincere, does not know God. He does not have a clue as to who God really is and often mistakenly applies the attributes of creaturehood to the Creator in an attempt to put God in the tiny box of his own brain (read Psalm 50:21).

 

    Dave Curtis, CCA member, gives Bible Studies on Creation and Apologetics geared to defending faith in the Bible. He writes to newspapers to keep the creation vs. evolution topic on the forefront. Dave doesn't shy away from controversy, but gives heartfelt honest answers.  

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